{"id":731,"date":"1998-06-28T12:07:28","date_gmt":"1998-06-28T12:07:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/?p=731"},"modified":"2011-08-28T12:17:04","modified_gmt":"2011-08-28T12:17:04","slug":"marc-s-pomona-in-june-awful-new-clutch-but-12-16-114mph","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/1998\/06\/28\/marc-s-pomona-in-june-awful-new-clutch-but-12-16-114mph\/","title":{"rendered":"Marc S &#8211; Pomona in June &#8211; Awful new clutch, but 12.16 \/ 114mph"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pntrst_main_before_after\"><\/div><p>The good:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; The Pomona guys said it was the smallest turnout all year. We averaged<br \/>\na run per hour for the first few hours, and then around 2:40pm it started<br \/>\nto become &#8220;run as often as you want&#8221;&#8230; You just ran &amp; got back in line<br \/>\nagain (with between 16 &#8211; 40 other cars!) So we ended up paying under a<br \/>\ndollar per run if ya don&#8217;t count the race gas :)<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Scott Terrace ran some awesome times, especially with his very short<br \/>\nlist of mods&#8230; 13.3&#8217;s! This is right up there with those ol&#8217; East Coast<br \/>\nstories of putting under $1000 into a DSM &amp; being at low 13&#8217;s&#8230; Scott is<br \/>\ngoing for 12&#8217;s soon on the ultimate budget car!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/?attachment_id=732\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-732\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-732\" title=\"Untitled-8_med\" src=\"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Untitled-8_med.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"591\" height=\"391\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Bryan actually showed this time (hehe) and broke 13&#8217;s on his 14B car!<br \/>\nYeeha!<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Had a first-timer come (I just know I&#8217;m gonna spell this wrong&#8230;<br \/>\n&#8220;Shino?&#8221;) and do awesome! Shino has a 2G FWD with limited mods and by his<br \/>\n3rd launch he had pulled a 2.3 60-foot time! He later pulled at least 2<br \/>\n2.2 60-foot times! (1\/4 mi time was 14.6 I believe). Fantastic times for<br \/>\na FWD &amp; a first time at the track. Congrats!<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; I had a new personal best &amp; my MPH increased substantially.<\/p>\n<p>The bad:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Most of my times! Yeah, I know these times are faster than most, but<br \/>\nhonestly the car has more in it so considering I started the day at a 12.19<br \/>\n@ 114.3 w\/ a 1.857 60 foot time, the day was very disappointing for me.<\/p>\n<p>The ugly:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; My 60-foot times were horrid. I could not launch the car worth a damn<br \/>\nwith the new clutch. I wanted to rip that thing out and torch it. Even<br \/>\nwith *11* runs (towards the end I was trying ANYTHING to see if I could<br \/>\nfigure out a method to launch) I couldn&#8217;t do jack on my launches&#8230; Here are<br \/>\nsome of the timeslips, then I&#8217;ll mention the &#8220;why&#8221;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>12.16 @ 114.5, 1.807 60-foot time<br \/>\n12.19 @ 114.3, 1.857 60-foot time<br \/>\n12.19 @ 114, 1.763 60-foot time (hit rev limiter bad on 1-2 shift)<br \/>\n12.32 @ 113.5, 1.897 60-foot time<br \/>\n12.32 @ 113.2, 1.922 60-foot time<br \/>\n12.34 @ 114, 1.895 60-foot time<br \/>\n12.40 @ 114.4, 1.972 60-foot time<br \/>\nOther 60 foot times included: 2.071, 1.971, 2.036, 2.254.<\/p>\n<p>The day started off exciting&#8230; We knew on the first run that the engine was<br \/>\n11-second capable. Had the MPH, just needed a good launch&#8230; If I coulda<br \/>\nhad a 1.71 60 foot time on that 12.19\/1.857 run, the 12.32\/1.922 run,<br \/>\netc&#8230; Coulda grabbed an 11.9x. We all knew it and as the day went on I<br \/>\nwas really really frustrated at not being able to improve the launch.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/?attachment_id=733\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-733\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-733\" title=\"Untitled-3_med\" src=\"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Untitled-3_med.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"591\" height=\"391\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what was happening in-car:<br \/>\nI&#8217;d take the engine to various rpm, usually no less than 4500, and then<br \/>\nwhen it was time to launch I&#8217;d start stepping on the gas and then start<br \/>\nreleasing the clutch. No matter how fast or slow I seemed to release the<br \/>\nclutch pedal, within the first few feet of launching, suddenly I&#8217;d hear<br \/>\nloud bangin&#8217; noises coming from all 4 tires. The car ran *perfectly*<br \/>\nstraight off the line and down the track, was not squirmy in any way. So<br \/>\nwhat did I figure? I thought I had wheel hop&#8230; That the tires were right<br \/>\non the border of hooking up\/not hooking up and were going back and forth<br \/>\nbetween the two, hence the physical banging I was feeling\/hearing. (Every<br \/>\nlaunch now activated my windshield washers, too, so it seemed like I was<br \/>\ngetting decent traction).<\/p>\n<p>So stupid me, I spent almost all my runs trying to get the wheels spinning<br \/>\na little more&#8230; I raised the RPM level of my launches, tried slipping the<br \/>\nclutch even more (it doesn&#8217;t like to slip at all), etc. I didn&#8217;t want to<br \/>\nbe on the edge of traction&#8230; I wanted to have my wheels spinning more<br \/>\ncleanly for a little off the line, and then have them hook up solid&#8230; This<br \/>\nis how I got my low 1.7&#8217;s before, because the car still accelerates strong<br \/>\nwith the spinning, and you don&#8217;t bog your engine. Most of the runs<br \/>\nSaturday I&#8217;d hit the rev limiter on the 1-2 shift too&#8230; Suddenly it would<br \/>\njump to 7200 on my tach (my tach reads 300 rpm low) and there would be no<br \/>\ntime to shift to 2nd before the limiter hit&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Realization of what was happening didn&#8217;t come until the 9th friggin run&#8230;<br \/>\n(I was kinda out of it the whole day from getting 3 hours max of sleep). I<br \/>\ncan&#8217;t remember exactly how it happened but I mentioned to someone how I hit<br \/>\nmy rev limiter at the 1-2 shift at my last run, and they responded &#8220;yeah,<br \/>\nyou were in that rev limiter for a while&#8221;&#8230; (And I was thinking &#8220;that&#8217;s<br \/>\nodd, when rev limiter hits before I can shift, it&#8217;s usually pretty quick).<br \/>\nThe spectator describes how my engine sounds *off the line* before I even<br \/>\ngot to shift&#8230; Brah-brah-brah-brah (stutter stutter stutter). Ronnie comes<br \/>\nby &amp; he confirms the prob&#8230; I was riding the rev-limiter throughout the<br \/>\nlaunch! It was impossible to hear the rev-limiter with helmet on, windows<br \/>\nclosed, and big loud sounds coming from all 4 tires&#8230; Yeah, you could call<br \/>\nit wheel hop, but not because I was on the verge of traction&#8230; It was<br \/>\nbecause the engine was making so much power it was just annihilating all 4<br \/>\ntires and instantly going to rev limiter the whole way through 1st&#8230; As the<br \/>\nrev limiter hit, the wheels would go back &amp; forth between gaining a touch<br \/>\nof traction &amp; losing it again. The wheels were all spinning so evenly that<br \/>\nthe car never felt squirmy in any way and simply stayed straight&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>So yeah, I was running low 12&#8217;s with riding the rev limiter throughout<br \/>\nfirst gear. Engine made lots of power, clutch grabbed hard, tires couldn&#8217;t<br \/>\nhack it in any way. Plain &amp; simple. Nice to know the why, but there<br \/>\nwasn&#8217;t anything I could do to go faster&#8230; Just couldn&#8217;t get any traction<br \/>\nwith such a harsh clutch. The clutch did its job of holding the power. It<br \/>\njust did it too well! End of story.<\/p>\n<p>I am gonna see about getting my rev limiter raised to 8000, perhaps that<br \/>\nwill help a little&#8230; Now I know how a FWD&#8217;er with a built engine and no<br \/>\nslicks feels. I honestly think though that if I had my &#8220;old&#8221; clutch in the<br \/>\ncar (before it blew a spring), 11&#8217;s coulda been mine :). Time to invest in<br \/>\nsome tires.<\/p>\n<p>Which leads us to today (Sunday)-<\/p>\n<p>Billy- Kick some butt and bring us that 11-sec time slip we&#8217;ve been waiting<br \/>\nfor&#8230; Our cars are definitely good for it. As long as you didn&#8217;t get my<br \/>\ntype of clutch installed last night you will do just fine :)-. 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We averaged a run per hour for the first few hours, and then around 2:40pm it started to become &#8220;run as often as you want&#8221;&#8230; You just ran &amp; got back in line again (with between 16 &#8211; 40 other cars!) 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