{"id":1818,"date":"2009-10-02T19:43:36","date_gmt":"2009-10-03T02:43:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/?p=1818"},"modified":"2011-10-09T20:48:22","modified_gmt":"2011-10-10T03:48:22","slug":"edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/02\/edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth\/","title":{"rendered":"Edmunds Inside Line &#8211; GT30R Hearts AMS Widemouth"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pntrst_main_before_after\"><\/div><h1><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.insideline.com\/roadtests\/2009\/09\/2008-mitsubishi-evo-gsr-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth-at-rre.html\">2008 Mitsubishi Evo GSR: GT30R Hearts AMS Widemouth At RRE<\/a><\/h1>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.insideline.com\/\">Edmunds Insideline Blog<\/a><\/p>\n<p>By\u00a0<a id=\"disclaimer_popup24288\" href=\"http:\/\/www.insideline.com\/staff\/email-disclaimer.html\">Jason Kavanagh<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0September 16, 2009<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/?attachment_id=1823\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1823\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1823\" title=\"IMG_1211 800\" src=\"http:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/IMG_1211-800.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Once the turbo, clutch and injectors were installed in Project Evo X, Mike Welch of Road Race Engineering got to work on the dyno.<\/p>\n<p>Let it be known right now that to make real power on 91 octane, regardless of the hardware involved, is a royal pain the rear. Mike had his work cut out for him before he even began.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and Mike raised the crazy up one more level. He filled our tank with\u00a091 octane from 7-11. It&#8217;s madness, yet there is method to it&#8211;if he can make our car knock-free on this utter crap fuel, then it&#8217;ll be safe on any fuel we&#8217;ll ever fill the tank with.<\/p>\n<p>On to the tuning, then. First he scaled the bigger ID1000 injectors in the ECU and roughed in a conservative calibration. From there he gradually tuned the car, adjusting those scaling parameters,\u00a0changing intake and exhaust cam timing, boost pressure and ignition timing.<\/p>\n<p>During and between runs Mike monitors more than just output. There&#8217;s knock activity, fuel trims, air-fuel ratio, coolant temperature, intake temperature, intercooler effectiveness&#8230; you could say that a tuner&#8217;s job is like juggling cats next to a running chainsaw. If one cat gets away from you&#8230;<\/p>\n<div id=\"more\">\n<p>&#8230;ask him to switch off the chainsaw.<\/p>\n<p>Eventually, the car stopped making power and started becoming knock-sensitive. That&#8217;s usually the point where you&#8217;re done and need to back off a bit to have a safe calibration.<\/p>\n<p>The problem is that at this point, it just wasn&#8217;t making\u00a0much more power than it was with the stock turbo. Everything looked good otherwise (and we have a nice closed-loop idle with the\u00a0ID1000s;\u00a0no nonlinearities, and a relaxed 62% duty cycle at redline).<\/p>\n<p>As for the power situation, long story short, our car still had the stock exhaust elbow and downpipe. And that was a problem.<\/p>\n<p>This elbow is that part of the exhaust that connects the turbo&#8217;s turbine discharge to the cat. Stock, it&#8217;s a restrictive little thing. One theory is that Mitsubishi engineers had to make the elbow all kinked up to accomodate right hand-drive cars. Basically, to keep it away from the steering shaft that pokes down in that same region.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever, the operating theory is that the stock downpipe was very likely choking off flow and introducing backpressure. To address this,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/amsperformance.com\/\">AMS<\/a>\u00a0sent us a higher-flowing replacement they call a Widemouth Downpipe. It&#8217;s an apt name. Comparison between the AMS Widemouth and stock piece can be seen below. You could drop a baseball in one end\u00a0and of the Widemouth it would drop out the other.<\/p>\n<p>It beautifully made, too, comprising cast stainless segments\u00a0with a generously-sized flex section to replace the stock spring\/bolt arrangement.<\/p>\n\n\t\t<style type=\"text\/css\">\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 {\n\t\t\t\tmargin: auto;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 .gallery-item {\n\t\t\t\tfloat: left;\n\t\t\t\tmargin-top: 10px;\n\t\t\t\ttext-align: center;\n\t\t\t\twidth: 33%;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 img {\n\t\t\t\tborder: 2px solid #cfcfcf;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 .gallery-caption {\n\t\t\t\tmargin-left: 0;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t\/* see gallery_shortcode() in wp-includes\/media.php *\/\n\t\t<\/style>\n\t\t<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-1818 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-thumbnail'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/02\/edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth\/ams-widemouth-arm-800\/'><img width=\"150\" height=\"155\" src=\"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/ams-widemouth-arm-800.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/02\/edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth\/ams-widemouth-vs-stock-800\/'><img width=\"150\" height=\"113\" src=\"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/ams-widemouth-vs-stock-800.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/02\/edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth\/ams-widemouth-vs-stock-overall-800\/'><img width=\"150\" height=\"113\" src=\"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/ams-widemouth-vs-stock-overall-800.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/02\/edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth\/img_1211-800\/'><img width=\"150\" height=\"113\" src=\"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/IMG_1211-800.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt><\/dl>\n\t\t\t<br style='clear: both' \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p>Back on the dyno with the new downpipe&#8211;RRE mentioned that installing the Widemouth was a bit tricky due to the\u00a0physically larger GT30R&#8211;Mike noticed an immediate benefit. The car was now less detonation-prone, so he was able to better exploit the higher-flowing nature of the GT30R. From about 4200 rpm to redline, the Widemouth allowed him to tune in an additional 25 hp&#8230; and\u00a0that&#8217;s with running\u00a0a bit less boost in the midrange, too.<\/p>\n<p>So the lesson here is that matching components is critical when\u00a0we&#8217;re talking about the kind of output\u00a0this 2.0-liter engine is making while being fed The Worst Fuel On Earth.<\/p>\n<p>This post is getting long-winded so I&#8217;ll post up\u00a0a dyno chart of its final state of tune in a followup blog entry.<\/p>\n<p>Jason Kavanagh, Engineering Editor @ 25,000 miles.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"twttr_buttons\"><div class=\"twttr_twitter\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/share?text=Edmunds+Inside+Line+-+GT30R+Hearts+AMS+Widemouth\" class=\"twitter-share-button\" data-via=\"\" data-hashtags=\"\" data-lang=\"en\" data-size=\"default\" data-url=\"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/02\/edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth\/\"  data-related=\"\" target=\"_blank\">Tweet<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><\/div><div class=\"pntrst_main_before_after\"><div class=\"pntrst-button-wrap\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a data-pin-do=\"buttonBookmark\" data-pin-custom=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pinterest.com\/pin\/create\/button\/\"><img data-pin-nopin=\"1\" class=\"pntrst-custom-pin\" src=\"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-buttons-pack\/bws-pinterest\/images\/pin.png\" width=\"60\"><\/a>\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div><\/div><div class=\"fcbkbttn_buttons_block\" id=\"fcbkbttn_left\"><div class=\"fcbkbttn_like \"><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/02\/edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth\/\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\" layout=\"standard\"  width=\"450px\" size=\"small\"><\/fb:like><\/div><div class=\"fb-share-button  \" data-href=\"https:\/\/roadraceengineering.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/02\/edmunds-inside-line-gt30r-hearts-ams-widemouth\/\" data-type=\"button_count\" data-size=\"small\"><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2008 Mitsubishi Evo GSR: GT30R Hearts AMS Widemouth At RRE &nbsp; From Edmunds Insideline Blog By\u00a0Jason Kavanagh\u00a0|\u00a0September 16, 2009 Once the turbo, clutch and injectors were installed in Project Evo X, Mike Welch of Road Race Engineering got to work on the dyno. 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